On 12/12/21 5:26 PM, Robert wrote:
> Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men,
> and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall
> blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of
> eternal damnation: (Mar 3:28-29)
> Something you should reconsider and adjust.
I give you something to reconsider and adjust.
You do err, not knowing the scripture as well as you think.
I said the unpardonable sin is unbelief. This is correct. Nothing is
taught in the New Testament that is not already taught in the Old
Testament. Every bit from Matthew 1 to Revelation 22 is already
established in the Law and Prophets from Genesis to Malachi:
If they speak not according to the law and the prophets, there is no
light in them:
“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this
word, it is because there is no light in them.”
“So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.” [Hebrews 3:19]
Nobody gets to the promised land without faith of Jesus. You only quoted
part of the scripture concerning the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
The part that you didn’t quote explains what that means–unbelief. You
have separated the definition from the name of the sin. That’s bad
“He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and
blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy
Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word
against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this
world, neither in the world to come. Either make the tree good, and his
fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for
the tree is known by his fruit. O generation of vipers, how can ye,
being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the
mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart
bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure
bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word
that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of
judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words
thou shalt be condemned. ”
We see right here that Jesus explains who is guilty of blaspheming the
Holy Spirit and what that entails [Rev 2:9]. He calls the priests
vipers, which is a word for ‘devils.’ Those who scatter the flock,
preaching (speaking!) false doctrine out of the corrruption of their own
hearts, are militating against his status as the Son of God. He even
tells us how to identify who is the corrupt tree that is doing this
blasphemy, by looking at its fruit, the false words that they speak. By
leaving that out and quoting only part of the passage, you leave out the
definition of the blasphemy, and its consequences, and who is committing
the blasphemy–the religious leaders and priests. The same is true today.
This is why Jesus said, “… That every idle word that men shall speak,
they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words
thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”
Idle words here means worthless words, which will condemn a man who
claims to be a teacher of truth–those who are gathering sheep to
themselves instead of to Christ. That’s who is committing the blasphemy
against the Holy Spirit.
No wonder that no priest or pastor in any church or cult explains or
defines this sin for you! No wonder it just gets glossed over. Jesus is
condemning the religious teachers, the ones doing this blasphemous
speaking–and Jesus is pronouncing the evidence that it
is the religious teachers who are the unbelievers, and it is they who
So do you want to still pretend you are a teacher that is going to
“educate” me in God’s truth?
Jesus was talking to the Jews when he mentioned the blasphemy against
the Holy Spirit. He was accusing them of that very sin, in the very
scripture you quoted. You did not realize this even though it was right
in front of your face. John the Apostle confirms this and tells us
exactly who is committing the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit:
“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but
are the synagogue of Satan.” [Rev 2:9]
The leaders of the Jews are ‘the synagogue of Satan’ and are, as Satan’s
children, in fact committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. They
claim to be Jews (under God’s covenant) but in fact John says they are
liars and are not Jews at all, but the synagogue of Satan. What does
Satan do? He blasphemes the holy spirit–he denies the faith of Jesus.
How does he deny the faith of Jesus? He preaches a counterfeit faith for
men to believe in! The whore houses of religion are a fake faith,
replacing Jesus with their dogma. That is the blasphemy of which Jesus
is teaching. That is the anti-christ. “Anti” in Greek means “in place
of” or “vicarious” or “impersonating.”
The Church is impersonating God’s kingdom. That is how the impostor
devil deceives the whole world. He invented the church system to corral
everyone in to condemnation. There is no faith “in the earth” of this
system. It is a false faith–a counterfeit.
Persistent unbelief is the unpardonable sin, of which Pharisees,
Sadducees, false teachers, showmen, religious magicians, and religious
con artists are guilty. God is not in the business
of forgiving those who continue to reject the testimony of the Holy
Spirit that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who scatter the sheep away
from Jesus into their own control. Instead of leading the flock to the
One True Shepherd, to eat one spiritual bread and drink from one
spiritual drink, they scatter the flock into factions and denominations.
This is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
“Hear, O, Israel, Jehovah our Elohim is One!” He is one. He is not a
bunch of factions, creeds, parties, etc. He is one and his people are
one flock. But the religious “experts” are scattering that flock, by
speaking idle words, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit’s testimony thereby.
You wrote, “Therefore unbelief in the Son of God is indeed forgivable,
unless the person physically dies in that state.” This of course is the
flawed modern Christian view that denies the saving work of Jesus on the
cross and replaces it with the saving work of religion or the church,
the very thing Jesus is preaching _against_ in the scripture that you
left out. Just as the Pharisees and their religion had no power to
forgive sins, neither does the modern cult of Christendom have any power
to forgive sins, yet they claim they are saving souls from sin! That is
speaking against the Holy Spirit. That is what the Scribes and Pharisees
were doing, and you would understand that if you would not be so quick
to pretend you have understanding, and instead learn to understand.
Unbelief is indeed unpardonable. If you don’t believe, you can’t be
pardoned. If you believe, you are pardoned. That’s the gospel in a
nutshell. The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is an inward act of
militant and continued rejection of the testimony of Jesus by driving
his flock apart and scattering his sheep for power and money. There is no
other act that can fully condemn a man. All manner of sin and blasphemy
is indeed pardonable–to those who believe on Jesus. Without belief on
Jesus, there is no pardon. False teachers do not believe in Jesus. To
them Jesus is a weapon in their arsenal of magic tricks.
Modern Christians have made the mistake of misinterpreting Jesus’ words
and erecting a new kind of sin, or transgression of the law, which is
nowhere described in the Law and Prophets. The only sin that prevented
anyone from entering into the Lord’s rest in the promised land was
unbelief. The leaders of the Jews were guilty of that unbelief. Jesus
Christ is the Christian’s rest and promised land, and
unbelief keeps a man from entering in.
We were warned in the Old Testament about allowing anyone to be a
religious leader in our midst:
“And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar
spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a
people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and
to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is
because there is no light in them.”
Here the scripture is warning us to seek to God, not clerics, for
answers! Here the scripture pointedly tells us that those who speak
against the Word, are “wizards that peep, and that mutter” and that they
are “the dead” and that there is no light in them.
Jesus came to throw down all rule, all authority, and all power. Church
leaders are usurping his place by placing themselves in religious
authority over you. That’s who is blaspheming the Holy Spirit, for out
of the abundance of their corrupt hearts they speak a continuous stream
of lies, and they do it in the name of Jesus. That is the Nimrod, the
mighty hunter against the Lord, the anti-christ. The actual structure of
the Christian church is the seat of power of the man of sin. And from
that structure they will continue to scatter the flock, putting
themselves in Moses’s seat, impersonating Jesus for their own filthy gain.
This is the status of religious leaders building their religious tower
of Babel today. So it does not surprise me that you would have no idea
what the blasphemy of the holy ghost is, then go on to pretend you had
something to teach me on the matter.
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